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. but this morning, there are signs of some movement in negotiations. president obama and house speaker john boehner did speak by phone last night. that conversation came after the president offered to reduce his initial request for $1.6 trillion in new revenue to $1.4 trillion but is reportedly not backing down on raising taxes for the top 2%. boehner's spokesman said republicans are still seeking further concessions on spending cuts. >>> well, there are some new details this morning on that london nurse who took her own life after passing through a prank call at the hospital that was treating kate middleton for extreme morning sickness. jacintha saldanha's family reveals that she left a suicide note, though they haven't released details of what that note said. earlier this week, the two deejays who made the call said the tragedy has left them shattered, gutted and heartbroken. >>> now, here's your first look at this morning's "dish of scrambled politics." mitt romney wasn't the only one caught off guard last night. it is reported the powerful conservative koch brothers are postponing a gathering s
that the staffs of president obama and house speaker boehner resumed discussions as the two principles remain far from face-to-face negotiation apparently. fox news chief white house correspondent ed henry has the latest. >> pulling on the heart strings like he's on the campaign trail, president obama visited a middle class family in virginia. >> a couple thousands dollars means a couple months rent for this family. >> again, trying to frame the battle over the miscall cliff as being all about taxes with no mention of spending cuts. >> i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rates from going up for folks at the top 2%, but e remain optimistic we can get something done that are good for families like this one, and that's good for the american economy. >> republicans believe the reason the president is going light on spending cuts while demanding the budget deal include another increase in the nation's debt ceiling is clear. >> this is not about getting a handle on deficits or debt for him. it's about spending even more than he has. >> white house aids reject the republican
at everybeatmatters.org. lou: the staffs of both president obama and house speaker boehner are talking, but there is still no word of progress on the so-called fiscal cliff or the president's ultimatum. silence indicate a deal in the works or something too ugly for them to contemplate?@ we'll have the latest for you from the white house. white house correspondent ed henry here in just moments, but, first, the money line in hoping washington might get a deal done driving a modestly bullish mood on wall street at the end of the session. investors cheering news in a decline in jobless claims, and household wealth in the country grew by $1.7 trillion, to the highest level in five years, talk about a positive indicator for consumer purchasing. the dow jones industrial up 40 points, the s&p up five, and nasdaq rose 15.5 points. volume? a billion shares lighter than yesterday, but above the average of 3.1 billion trading on the board today. apple rebounded from yesterday's worst date performance in four years, a gain of $8.45 today with the ceo saying apple will move imac computer production
'll tell you why, straight ahead. >>> also ahead on "starting point," president obama and speaker boehner talk on the phone about the fiscal cliff. but will they be meeting face to face and will they get anything done before it's too late? up next, oregon senator jeff merkley. he's a member of the budget committee. >>> and kobe bryant joins an elite club with basketball greats like michael jordan and kareem abdul-jabbar. his impressive feat, we'll tell you all about it. >> the greatest player in the history of the los angeles lakers. wow! that's a savings of over 29 bucks! twenty-nine bucks!!?? and they're powered by friendship. see for yourself if you could save on the brands you want. walmart. starts with ground beef, unions, and peppers baked in a ketchup glaze with savory gravy and mashed russet potatoes. what makes stouffer's meatloaf best of all? that moment you enjoy it at home. stouffer's. let's fix dinner. we believe the more you know, the better you trade. so we have ongoing webinars and interactive learning, plus, in-branch seminars at over 500 locations, where our dedicated su
president obama and speaker boehner spoke on the phone last night, talked a lot about that even though we don't know what they discussed. the first read team says a fiscal cliff deal is in sight. what do they think the big deal will be? join our conversation on twitter. find us at @tamronhall a and @newsnation. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, ready to help. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. [ man thinking ] oh, this gas. those antacids aren't working. oh no, not that, not here! [ male announcer ] antacids don't relieve gas. gas-x is designed to relieve gas. gas-x. the gas xperts. now's a good time to think about your options. are you looking for a plan that really meets your needs? and your budget? as you probably know, me
speaker spoke for a short time yesterday. nobody knows exactly what they said. and president obama is going to talk to a family in virginia, sort of a deal to get -- why don't both sides go to camp david, lock themselves behind closed doors and come up with a deal? why a pr stunt, visiting voters when that's not going to get a deal done with republicans. >> i certainly would welcome that. i think most americans would. i think what the white house is doing -- and i think it's smart -- making sure that this conversation stays where it should be, with the middle class. the white house has been raising this point. they have this #my2k, explaining to republicans and the country, we can't afford for $2,000 more to hit our tax bill. it's important for the american people to stay engaged and the white house has to keep the american people engaged and this family will be speaking for a lot of people. it doesn't make any sense, even the polls show that the wealthy are willing to pay more taxes. for some reason republicans have dugged themselves -- painted themselves into a corner. as soon as
obama and speaker boehner spoke on the phone yesterday for the first time in days. both men agreed not to publicly characterize how the conversation went. but the stalemate in negotiations entered new territory yesterday with treasury secretary tim geithner suggesting the white house is ready to go off the cliff if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the 2%. >> if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. again, there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans -- remember, it's only 2%. the size of the problem in some sense is so large, it can't be solved without rates going up as part of that. again, i think there's broad recognition of that reality now. >> one fallback option republicans are reportedly considering is to accept tax cuts for the middle class, allow rates to go up for the wealthiest, and then start the fight over again during debt limit talks early next year. yesterday at a business roundtable of ceos, president obama took a
president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke by phone after the two sides exchanged new proposals this week in fiscal cliff negotiations. and late today mr. obama said the administration will recognize a coalition of syrian opposition groups. online, we look at a truly long- term reporting assignment. hari sreenivasan has more. >> sreenivasan: paul salopek is about to spend seven years tracing the ancient path of human migration around the globe. we talked about his route, the shoes he'll wear, and his emphasis on "slow journalism." and what's it like to have breast cancer in the poorest nation in the western hemisphere? that's next from our series with "pri's the world" on cancer in the developing world. all that and more is on our web site, newshour.pbs.org. ray? >> suarez: and that's the newshour for tonight. on wednesday, we'll look at the world in the year 2030. one intelligence report projects china will be on top economically, and the u.s. will be energy-independent. i'm ray suarez. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. we'll see you online, and again here tomorrow evening. t
about now, specifically very important people like president obama and speaker boehner, is the tax code and these programs that we sometimes call entitlements, medicare, medicaid and social security. those are the things that are on the table at the moment, not defense. unless the bargain fails, unless the two sides cannot get together and then the thing that will happen, and it will happen quickly, are drastic cuts in defense and domestic spending and an automatic increase in taxes. that is what must be avoided. just because the economy couldn't take it at this stage. we've had relatively slow growth in the economy, and though it seems to be picking up and the last jobs report was quite favorable, having a crash austerity program right now, that's what the fiscal cliff is, would be a big mistake. so the two sides have to get together on this grand bargain. >> well, we certainly hope they do. alice rivlin, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >>> switching gears now. what is the future for the pop star psy? he may have the most popular video in the history of youtube, but an old vide
. interesting. president obama and speaker boehner. nobody else. with 24 days before a year-end deadline, "the new york times" says boehner made the request to clear the negotiation room going forward, leaving it up to himself and the president to reach a deal to avoid automatic tax hikes and deep spending cuts. and while the two men may be negotiating privately, yesterday the president took his message to the public, visiting a local virginia family as a part of his my2k social media campaign, sitting around the kitchen table. he told the family he was optimistic. >> the message that i think we all want to send to members of congress is, this is a solvable problem. the senate has already passed a bill that would make sure the middle-class taxes don't go up next year by a single dime. just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good for families like this one and that is good for the american economy. >> what great news, i think. don't you think so
obama and house speaker john boehner brokering a deal. very much the way you saw they attempted to do during the debt ceiling debacle last year. it simplifies the problem of less cooks in the kitchen. then they will have to sell it. president obama would have to bring in democrats. john boehner would have to bring in his republicans and make sure everyone is on board. this comes on the heels of what has really been radio silence between the white house and house republicans. we found out yesterday, we were told by both sides that the lines of communication are back open on the staff level. i will tell you that's kind of fun funny to anyone here covering all this because normally the lines of communication are always open, but that was news yesterday. >> sad thing. it's all relative. let me ask you about what seemed to be a crazy thing that senator mitch mcconnell was trying to do that ended up backfiring on him pretty badly. >> reporter: some theatrics. the debt ceiling, it's set to be hit in january or february. that's complicating the fiscal cliff discussions. mitch mcconnell yester
cliff. that's right. all he needs is an hour and a room with both president obama and the house speaker. basically he would play a denim and check on them. he says if he can bri them to the right state of mind and thugh mental suggestion and mental conditioning that will start compromising. it's a trick of like to see. >> i love someone -- it's unmanly kind of love, but i love this guy the three and a half and on my show of force years ago, and he predicted the super bo victories. unwilling. melissa: before the game? >> before the game. he lost something up in my room and did not give in hawaiian. a ticket home with me. he predicted it. however embarrassing a think he's met hisatch year. to vote - folks inside the beltway don't think logically. that's what i don't think it'll work. >> i said bring the men. given the track. >> bring the man. they can actually find that compromise. >> of love to see him in there and now he would make sense. melissa: one that at a magician. we already have clouds in the next. beer is one of our listings. the whale carcass is running near celebrity homes in
negotiations appear to be at a standstill, we know president obama and house speaker john boehner finally spoke by phone yesterday. the first conversation in a week. we don't know what they talked about or how long they spoke, because both men agreed to keep details of the conversation between the two of them. meanti meantime, democrats are digging in heels saying no deem if republicans refuse to let go of tax cuts for the wealthy. >> it's really time for republicans to face reality. i would hope the house of representatives would look closely at what's going on with senators coming out saying please, mr. speaker, do something about protecting the middle class. >>
players, president obama and house speaker john boehner. joining me for our daily fix, nbc's david gregory moderator of "meet the press" and chris cizilla, msnbc contributor and managing editor of post politics.com. david, you've been on the hill talking to a lot of people. what is your sense? we hear john boehner saying no progress. >> right. >> is this all just a lot of shadow boxing right now? >> i think it's a lot of shadow boxing. i've gotten a clear impression of is that republicans are in a position to give on tax rates, if, and i keep underlining a big if, if they can get the white house to deal on entitlements. they have to get something for their members. enough public sentiment saying give up on the tax breaks to get a bigger deal. the president could muscle through the tax rates on his own. risks on his side. why not force him into a position where they can get sort of a bigger deal. here's what i thought was important. republicans saying to me that, you know, last july when we had the debt debacle, the feeling was don't give the president a success, don't give him a big victor
president obama's own self- described architecture of $3 in spending cuts for every dollar in new revenue. we are prepared to work and call on the white house to do the same thing. >> speaker boehner, president obama, the white house projection last offer -- \[inaudible] 53% of americans will blame republicans in congress if you go over the fiscal cliff. how long can you have that hard above. -- how long can you afford politically to have those tax cuts? >> america faces a very serious problem and our goal is to make sure it gets solved. we have a debt problem that is out of control. we have got to cut spending and i believe it is appropriate to put revenues on the table. the receive news we are putting -- of the revenues we are putting from, guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the same people pay more -- more of their money to the federal government without raising the tax rates which we believe will harm our economy. >>\[inaudible question] >> i think our members understand the seriousness of faces. trillion dollar deficits for as far as the
for his analysis on that. martha: the fiscal cliff, president obama and house speaker john boehner set to have a face-to-face meeting, one-on-one. we're waiting to hear from speaker boehner in just about 50 minutes away now. we'll bring you that live. bill: also, it has been 40 years, four full decades since the last man stepped on the moon. that was an american. his name is gene cernan. we'll talk to hem this hour. the last person to see the moon's craters up close and personal. >> ♪ i was stroeling on the moon one day, in a merry, merry of month of -- december. >> may, may. ♪ much to my surprise a pair of eyes, -- >> this is a neat way to travel. [ female announcer ] food, meet flavor. flavor, meet food. it's time for swanson flavor boost. concentrated broth in easy to use packets. mix it into skillet dishes, for an instant dose of... hell-o! [ female announcer ] get recipes at flavorboost.com. bill: we now have a verdict for a bus driver on trial for manslaughter. it will be revealed this morning although the verdict was reached yesterday because a juror had to leave the courtho
of the miami. we'll see where it goes this week. thank you, sir. martha: president obama and house speaker john boehner met face-to-face for the first time in more than three weeks hoping to hammer out some kind of budget deal for this fiscal cliff situation. this as more republican lawmakers took to the airwaves over the weekend saying they are indeed open to raising taxes but only in return for a plan that would get them a significant amount of cuts in entitlement spending. here is some of that from sunday. >> will i accept a tax increase as a part of a deal to actually solve our problems? yes. >> a for honesty but f for effort. you can't get it done, george. you can't take us off the road to bankruptcy unless you deal with structural reforms to entitlement spending. martha: south carolina republican senator lindsey graham, good to have you in studio. >> great to be here. martha: got out of the craziness of washington for couple days. >> my export expires. martha: you'll need one. talk negotiating tactics. does it make sense at this point in the game, what does it do to undercut john boehner'
, matt, savannah, and al. president obama and house speaker john boehner could be off to a fresh start in their efforts to avoid the looming fiscal cliff. the president resumed discussions with boehner on wednesday. however, treasury secretary tim geithner kept up the tough talk telling cnbc the administration would let automatic spending cuts and tax increases take effect if republicans refused to raise tax rates on upper income americans. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton and russia's foreign minister are holding surprise talks today on the deepening crisis in syria. the u.s. is concerned that syrian president assad's regime is on the verge of releasing chemical weapons against its own people. allies want assad to step down to prevent bloodshed. russia is syria's strongest ally. so support for any plan is critical. >>> search and rescue teams are still finding survivors two days after a powerful typhoon bopha struck the southern philippines, but the death toll has climbed beyond 375, and hundreds of people are still missing there. survivors include a 3-year-old child pulled from
. >>> president obama spoke on the phone with house speaker john boehner on wednesday, while his treasury secretary said the white house is, in fact, ready to go straight over the fiscal cliff. >> if you're really going to be serious about deficit reduction, it can't just be about taxes. it has to be about spending cuts, too. >>> prince william's wife catherine is out of the hospital after treatment for acute morning sickness. >> reporter: we were told from the beginning that this hospital stay would last 18 days and that's exactly what it turned out to be. >>> software developer john mcafee is no longer a fugitive, arrested in guatemala a month after his neighbor in belize was murdered. >>> the creators of cell phone technology pinpointed mcafee's location. police didn't know where he was. >> reporter: now that marijuana is legal here in washington, the state is going to start collecting taxes on it. >> "gangnam style." >> there is no one in political life funnier than alan simpson. >> mayor michael bloomberg announced that new york will hold a contest to redesign
wants to be in, but talks have completely dried up. yesterday speaker john boehner and president obama did not speak and their staffs did not speak. so really this thing is at a standstill like we've never seen before. >> yeah. so the fact that we're not even talking now. the aides aren't even talking the each other. where does that leave us? how comfortable is everybody with this? when are they going to restart speaking? >> house republicans released their own proposal a couple days ago, which they thought made major concessions in offering up new tax revenue, which the party hasn't really done in decades. the president and his advisers immediately said that that was not a proposal worth considering. so really what we're waiting for is a counteroffer from the white house. the white house has to react in some way to this offer from house republicans. they haven't done that yet. so we're kind of waiting for that. republicans say the ball is in his court. listen, the president is still the president. he has to invite house republicans to the white house. he has to make that move to get t
seeing any movement in these talks at all, rich? >> some, jon. a house aide says president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke on the phone yesterday afternoon. that is their first conversation in a week and since republicans offered $800 billion in new tax revenue and more than a trillion dollars in spending cuts. aides refuse to say if the president and speaker are now closer to a deal. for both sides a little more campaigning. president obama heads to northern virginia this afternoon. the white house says he will meet with a middle class family to press congress to protect those making less than $250,000 a year from tax increases and raise rates on those making more. house republicans return to their congressional districts. they will meet with small business owners to underscore how they say tax rate increases will hit those business, jon. jon: are they still hung up on taxes? is that the big sticking point? >> yes. taxes are the key to this debate. republicans say they will increase tax revenue through cutting tax deductions. democrats say tax rates have to increase f
, president obama rejected a proposal from house speaker john boehner. he spoke on bloomberg television. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. i'm happy to entertain other ideas that the republicans may present. but we are not going to simply cut our way to prosperity or to cut our way out of this deficit problem that we have. we're going to need more revenues. in order to do that, that starts with higher rates for the folks at the top. >> reporter: the president did say today he would consider lowering rates again for the top two percent next year as part of a broader tax overhaul. the house republican plan envisions $2.2 trillion in deficit reductions over the next decade. $800 billion would come from new revenues but with no hike in tax rates for top earners. instead the plan reles on .2 trillion in reduced spending including $600 billion from changes in medicare and medicaid. at the white house today, the president met with a bipartisan group of governors pressing his own plan for deficit reduction. that proposal, $1.6 trillion in revenue from ta
if there is an agreement between speaker boehner and president obama, it is not clear it will be acceptable. host: david is on the phone from york, pennsylvania, republican line, good morning. caller: i'm calling from arkansas, actually. i am an attorney and i've tried to watch the actions of this president. i take into consideration the books he read and he uses the philosophers who taught him as he grew up. i really believe that based on the way he is trying -- that based on the way he has been trained, i think the president wants to go over the cliff because that will achieve the things he was buried he wants to break up the republican party. he wants to break its back and then he also wants to go over the cliff because he wants to have a financial crisis because if you look at the study, that is the only way he can really achieve the type of social and fiscal non-responsibility he wants to achieve. that is break the back of the economy and then we have a crisis. and then he will come in and fix it. it is a very socialist way that will be unacceptable to most americans accept the slivers of the ameri
reached speaking with the house speaker and the minority leader. president obama speech to members of the business roundtable about the negotiations and the economy. he told ceos he would not negotiate. because of technical problems, we can only show you part of his remarks. >> we are grateful for both the electricity and the engagement we have had with members of your team. i know your team has really reached out significantly over the last few months to many people in this room and i know personally, the outreach to us is genuine and we know you are seeking solutions. but that was outlined very sincerely this morning when we met with jack and the rest of the team. i hope you get the same sense of purpose and commitment from us as we engage with you. there aren't a lot of wallflowers' in here. we are eager for a two-way exchange nonetheless. hopefully your take away would be to have a useful purpose in the dialogue. mr. president, thank you for joining us today. [applause] >> good morning everybody. it is great to see all of you. many of you had a chance to see individually or in
of moving parts today, senator, in the capitol. speaker boehner coming out at 11:00 a.m. saying no progress to talk about. we don't know if nancy pelosi will be speaking later on today at noon. we know president obama will be speaking. does this misstep that we were just talking about, does it hurt? is this just mcconnell really just trying to get his say into this process? >> you know, richard, i don't think so. i actually think senator mcconnell's proposal was a pretty good one regardless of who is president. president obama or then governor romney. the notion that this country every 12, 14 month is going to have this hostage taking by congress over a debt ceiling is not a way to run, you know, the largest enterprise in the world, the united states government. there's nothing in the constitution that talks about a debt ceiling. this has become kind of in the past a pro forma process that has now turned into a financial armageddon each time it comes about and i do think granting the president these additional rights and then allowing congress with a two-thirds vote to say, hold on here, th
." the administration is taking a tough line on the fiscal cliff as far as the obama resumes contact with house speaker john banner. treasury secretary says that the administration will absolutely let the double whammy take effect as scheduled on less republicans give and to president obama as the man to raise tax rates at all where income levels. geiger says the problem is too big to be solved without raising tax rates on the wealthy. he drew a fierce response from republicans saying that the statement was stunning and irresponsible. egest republic golegest republis ordered protesters supporting and opposing president mohammed morsi to leave the area around the presidential palace that has been the site of fierce clashes. the guard gave broad protesters on both sides time to clear out. >> the death toll from the typhoon hit the southern philippines has climbed to 350 people today. it hit hardest in the southern philippines where entire families were washed away. and the four injured people are still missing. nato has called on north korea to cancel its plans for a second rocket launch. ambassador stat
deadline. president obama spoke on the phone with house speaker john boehner on wednesday while his treasury secretary said the white house is, in fact, ready to go straight over the fiscal cliff. major garrett is at the white house. major, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, norah and charlie. later on this afternoon the president will travel across the potomac river to northern virginia to meet a middle-class family to make the self-evident point if the there is a deal and taxes are raised by about $2,000 they'll be happier and spend more money. that's the p.r. side of this. much more importantly, for the deal, the two key players yesterday picked up the phone. the phone call relatively brief and substantive, though details remain illusive. shorter, sources say. the last week 28-minute conversation described then as curt, direct and frank. no one with this call used such barbed words and occurred before treasury secretary tim geithner laid down this harsh fiscal cliff marker. >> if the administration, are they prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. no prospect o
would be president obama's water loo. remember that? earlier this week he argued that speaker boehner's proposal tax hikes would destroy jobs. but senator demind says his resignation has nothing to do with the fiscal cliff. it's because he has accepted a job as president of the conservative think tank the heritage foundation. jim demint served three terms as a u.s. congressman from south carolina before voters first elected him to the senate in 2004. mike emanuel is on capitol hill tonight. it's a big resignation,. >> jim demint says is he leaving the senate, shep he is not leaving the fight. in fact, demint might be able to spend more time on issues he is most passionate about at the heritage foundation. he explained his thinking on "special report" a short time ago. >> i think i'm in a more powerful position than a single united states senator. i wouldn't feel good about leaving if we didn't have so many new bright young conservatives now in the senate. but it's time that conservatives take control of our message and let americans know what we can do to make their lives better. earl
with the government saying the constitutional. >> president obama spoke on the phone last night with the speaker of the house. neither the white house nor the office of john boehner is talking about that conversation. and officials say there's no immediate plan. tax hikes and deep spending cuts are set to kick in on the 1st of january. with 26 days left, the white house is telling federal agencies and the pentagon to get ready for massive cuts if they can't find an agreement. >> other big story this morning, a gun is found inside a student's locker in a fairfax county school. >> school officials say there was never any danger to the students or staff. melanie is live this morning with more. >> reporter: well, tony, students are settling in to their classes and continuing to monitor the situation to ensure the safety of staff and students. still neither they nor police have publically said what led to the student bringing the weapon to school. administrators were the ones who found the gun. investigators say there was an ammunition magazine in the weapon but didn't lead details about what led off
standing behind the president when asked who was handling the crisis better, 49% support president obama and the democrats while only 25% support house speaker john boehner and the republicans. so if there's no deal and the tax hikes and spending cuts take effect, we feel the impact. christine romans sat down with this panel for a report on the bottom line. here's part of the conversation she had with a working mom, small business owner and a woman looking for work. >> i have a household to run. still have rent and bills to pay, and i need help. i need help. >> three kids? >> yeah. >> how old are your kids, 23, 18, and 11. >> what do you tell them when they see the economy in front of them and hear all this fighting in washington about the fiscal cliff. you've been looking for a job for more than six months now. are you more optimistic or less than things will turn around next year? >> i believe it's going to turn around. it will probably take a little time, but i think it will. >> you need the government to help now until that happens? >> yes, i definitely do. >> you just had a baby. co
with the speaker of the house on that? >> unfortunately, wolf, the policies of president obama have already taken us over the cliff. if you meet with businesses like i do all the time, they've already paired back plans for next year anticipating what's going to happen. we can fix this christmas eve if we want, but we've already hurt the economy and job growth. >> are you with boehner? >> i'm not with boehner. this government doesn't need anymore money. this country needs less government. we're going to have historic levels of revenue to the government this year. >> everyone's taxes are going up at the end of the year if there's no deal. >> we have already offered to extend current tax rates. that's what we should have done six months ago until we could come to some agreement, some compromise on tax reform. >> when you say compromise, where are you ready to compromise as far as taxes are concerned? >> how we go about tax reform, there's a lot of room to work together to lower the rates. >> give me an example? >> i'm not sure where the democrats are because they have not offered a plan. >> their pl
is to raise revenues on the rich, he was co opting barack obama's language and we read this week about the purging and the removal of conservatives and tea party members from their committee assignments because they didn't vote the way speaker boehner wants. that seems to me to be evidence that a surrender is coming. >> well, i'm not sure it's the appointments so much as the substance of the negotiations. i think, you know, once you cave on rates, you've given up -- the president says it's the principle for him that republicans have to cave on rates because he pretends that you can't raise the revenues you want, meaning the money you want for the treasury by doing it through deductions, eliminating deductions and loopholes which is what everybody agrees is the way to do it. that's what reagan did with tip o'neill in 1986. they eliminated deductions, credits, loopholes, etc., and they were able to lower rates, and that created a real economic engine. so you can raise this money by eliminating deductions. the president simply wants to force republicans to raise rates as a way to break th
reforms and the debt ceiling called the dollar for dollar act. i continue to hope that speaker boehner and president obama will negotiate a deal north of $4 trillion before year end, but i think we should also prepare now for the possibility that they will not, especially based on recent conversations. the next opportunity we have to make the structural transform alternative -- transformative to medicare and medicaid will be during the debt ceiling vote which will be coming up right after the first of the year as soon as we get back. i'm introducing dollar for dollar legislation that will raise the debt ceiling by roughly $1 trillion in exchange for roughly $1 trillion in reforms to social security, medicare and medicaid. this puts into legislative language many of the concepts laid out in bipartisan simpson-bowles and domenici-rivlin proposals. this bill meets our obligations to older and younger americans. young americans expect us to solve our fiscal issues so they aren't saddled with debt and robbed of their opportunity for the american dream, and seniors expect us to honor the com
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